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INTERVIEW
President and Secretary of Defense Stay On - Message
Daniel Poneman on Morning
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Aired October 12, 2006
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STEVE INSKEEP, host:
The Bush administration is waging war in Iraq at the same it now
faces a nuclear confrontation with North Korea. So President
Bush met yesterday with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and
General George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq. Afterward,
all of them expressed hope for Iraq and the Korean peninsula in
strikingly similar terms.
NPR's John Hendren reports from the Pentagon.
JOHN HENDREN: On both sides of the Potomac yesterday, the
president and the nation's military leaders were on message.
Here's President Bush at the White House on North Korea's
announcement that it has tested a nuclear bomb.
President GEORGE W. BUSH: And I'll also remind our citizens that
we want to make sure that we solve this problem diplomatically.
We've got to give every effort to do so.
HENDREN: And here's Secretary Rumsfeld, a few hours later,
across the river at the Pentagon.
Mr. DONALD RUMSFELD (U.S. Secretary of Defense): I think that
the president is clearly on the right path in marshalling other
countries to support an approach to try to leverage world
opinion to cause the Korean government to change their
direction.
HENDREN: When Mr. Bush acknowledged rising violence in Iraq, he
added a positive spin.
President BUSH: A rise in violence has occurred every Ramadan
period in the last three years. Attacks and casualties have also
increased recently, because our forces are confronting the enemy
in Baghdad and in other parts of Iraq.
HENDREN: And so did General Casey.
General GEORGE CASEY (U.S. Commander, Iraq): The situation in
Iraq remains difficult and complex. If you add the intensities
of Ramadan, and the fact that the new government is just
standing up, this makes for a difficult situation that's likely
to remain that way for some time.
HENDREN: Here is the president's view of a new study released,
by Johns Hopkins University, that says more than 600,000
civilians have died violently since the U.S. invaded Iraq in
2003.
President BUSH: No, I don't consider it a credible report.
HENDREN: And here's General Casey at the Pentagon.
Gen. CASEY: The 650,000 number seems way, way beyond any number
that I have seen. I've not seen a number higher than 50,000. And
so, I don't give that much credibility at all.
HENDREN: Turning to North Korea, Mr. Bush said it was part of a
larger world of danger that includes terror groups eager to use
any nuclear technology they can get their hands on.
President BUSH: And when you throw in that, a mix - a nuclear
weapon in the hands of a sworn enemy of the United States, you
begin to see in an environment that would cause some later on in
history to look back and say, how come they couldn't see the
problem. What happened to them in the year 2006? Why weren't
they able to see the problems now and deal with them before it
came too late?
HENDREN: At the Pentagon, Rumsfeld did the same. He noted that
today marks the anniversary of the attack that killed 17 sailors
on the USS Cole in the year 2000, tying that al-Qaida attack and
others to the threat posed by North Korea.
Mr. RUMSFELD: That attack, which was really less than a year
before the September 11, 2001 attacks, was a fresh demonstration
to the world of the dangers that are posed by violent
extremists. Those dangers would be amplified geometrically
should terrorists be able to obtain weapons of mass destruction.
HENDREN: While the administration ties terror groups to North
Korea, its prescription for dealing with the Asian nation has
been multi-lateral talks rather than armed force.
Dan Poneman, a former national security official and now a
non-proliferation expert at the Scowcroft Group, says this
remains the most viable path.
Mr. DAN PONEMAN (Non-Proliferation Expert, Scowcroft Group): I
think the thing that will ultimately work in the long run is to
present the North Koreans with a stark choice, that says if they
come into compliance with our expectations - that they give up
their nuclear weapons in a verifiable way - they could look to a
future of increased trade, cooperation, energy assistance and
the like, from the outside world. But if they persist in this
defiant path that they are now embarking upon, that they can
look only to increased hardship and isolation.
HENDREN: By saying yesterday, that the U.S. will honor its
security agreements with South Korea and Japan, President Bush
reminded North Korea that an attack on either ally would be
treated as an attack on the United States. But the president
refused to say whether any other North Korean action would cross
a red line and lead the U.S. to take military action.
John Hendren, NPR News, the Pentagon.
INSKEEP: It's MORNING EDITION from NPR News.
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